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Post Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:41 am

Re: newman takes pay cut to stay at SHR

Most ALL drivers get mad at their teams and let them know about it that we hear over their radio, because of lousy pit stops or bad pit calls, so you might try listening to a race broadcast sometime. Also its not whinning to speak your mind--get a clue--its telling it like it is and the fans love it and so does Nascar as even they have said it shows fire and passion. Ryan wants to be a goody two shoes and be nicey nice fine but how is that going? Maybe if he started telling the crew what he thought they might actually react to prove him wrong but when a driver says nothing--facts are--nothing is exactly whats going to happen--end of story. Actually watch some races as apparently many of you dont or you dont pay attention.

Did you hear Ricky talking back to his CC last night--that kind of thing works, because most all drivers do it at some point, well except mr pacifist Ryan and look how far thats gotten him? its not about being classy, just too afraid to speak his mind and that will get him exactly nothing but a nice guy who never complains but finishes out of the chase--yeh that works. Drivers who are too nice and never complain may eventually find themselves sitting at home watching the race from the couch.

I was always taught to speak my mind and it has served me well all my life. I was told if I dont stand up for myself then why should anyone else? think about it. BTW "whinning" isnt what a driver does with team problems, its infact what most of you do all the time about Ryan and his team. Its because he wont say anything that nothing will ever change with him but by all means you guys keep whinning if you think it will help? LMAO :roll:
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Post Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:31 pm

Re: newman takes pay cut to stay at SHR

No one is saying Ryan doesn't tell his crew to step up, we're just saying he most likely tells them behind closed doors.

You yell at someone long enough, threaten their jobs and so on, eventually they just ignore you (kind of like me ignoring 99% of your posts.....I know you type a lot of words and degrade people, but you actually say very little)

and I listen to a race broadcast every weekend ;)
Do something with your life and go get me a beer.

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Post Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:34 pm

Re: newman takes pay cut to stay at SHR

Schmoopy1000 wrote:1st off Tony is an owner of SHR, Ryan is not. They make changes to his championship team while leaving Ryans mediocre team the same. Dont even dream that Tony & Haas dont see that the 39 team is in mediocry. That all falls on ownership no matter what a driver says or thinks. They have meetings every single week, so quit with the ownership doesnt know the team sucks without Ryan saying so. Also I think it takes more of a man not to talk trash to thwe media & keep behind closed doors.
Bringing up Danica is simply funny. We all know she is a whiner when things arent perfect. LOL
You call it fire, so be it. She was whining last weekend & when she finally did what the CC wanted her to, the car did exactly what he said it would.
Anyone thinkng Ryan doesnt drive hard or doesnt have any fire doesnt pay attention. He is driving harder than most of those guys out there, because he is driving his heart out with a crap handling car most weekends.
I would rather Ryan act the way he is, than become a whiner. When a team is mediocre it is ownerships job to change something (I was hoping they would change drivers personally)
No matter if you want to say it is the crew, the CC or the driver, it still falls on ownership to make a change.

Check mate! :mrgreen:


you needs to watching last season again.. Tony had more troubles with Grubb before Chase.. He had also mediocre team but he goes out and won championship.. That is difference between champion and good driver.. I agree Gibson is problem, but I dont think it is 100% Gibson's fault.. Ryan needs more aggresive and find chemistry with his crew chiefs (Gibson is his 4th crew chief, but he had chemistry only with Borland)..

Last year, SHR had some problems:
1st - Bobby Hutchens was fired - SHR was finding new competition director..
2nd - Darian was problem whole season - SHR knows it - SHR was finding new crew chief..
3rd - Danica was comming and Smoke wanted Mark Martin - SHR was finding other new crew chief and whole new team..
4th - Issues with sponsorship - They needs sponsor for Ryan and for Mark (They find for Ryan, dont find for Mark)..
5th - Ryan and Gibson lost their chemistry in Chase - That means also finding 3rd new crew chief..

They had bigger problems than Gibson and Grubb.. But they knew about problems with Darian before Chase.. If they knew about problems with Gibson before Chase, maybe they find someone for Ryan..

This year - they have issues with sponsorship (again).. They knows about problems with Gibson.. I hope they is finding two new crew chiefs (for Ryan and for Danica)..

Team also needs new crew chief for Chase because they are struggling on 1.5 ovals.. Zippy and Steve are same JGR school, they needs somebody with new ideas.. I dont think they find new crew chief for Ryan before Chase, but Matt Borland will be good crew chief for Ryan (for this year Chase)..
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Post Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:10 pm

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racer1 wrote:Most ALL drivers get mad at their teams and let them know about it that we hear over their radio, because of lousy pit stops or bad pit calls, so you might try listening to a race broadcast sometime. Also its not whinning to speak your mind--get a clue--its telling it like it is and the fans love it and so does Nascar as even they have said it shows fire and passion. Ryan wants to be a goody two shoes and be nicey nice fine but how is that going? Maybe if he started telling the crew what he thought they might actually react to prove him wrong but when a driver says nothing--facts are--nothing is exactly whats going to happen--end of story. Actually watch some races as apparently many of you dont or you dont pay attention.

Did you hear Ricky talking back to his CC last night--that kind of thing works, because most all drivers do it at some point, well except mr pacifist Ryan and look how far thats gotten him? its not about being classy, just too afraid to speak his mind and that will get him exactly nothing but a nice guy who never complains but finishes out of the chase--yeh that works. Drivers who are too nice and never complain may eventually find themselves sitting at home watching the race from the couch.

I was always taught to speak my mind and it has served me well all my life. I was told if I dont stand up for myself then why should anyone else? think about it. BTW "whinning" isnt what a driver does with team problems, its infact what most of you do all the time about Ryan and his team. Its because he wont say anything that nothing will ever change with him but by all means you guys keep whinning if you think it will help? LMAO :roll:

LOL you are talking to the wrong group of people. Instead of listening to the broadcast, try listening to their radioes. I listen to Danica's radio during the NW races & listen to Ryan's in cup. The broadcast you will find are usually clueless & lead fans like you awry. Please quit trying to tell us that follow Ryan much much deeper than you how he thinks or talks. When Ryan does start to act up on the radio or when he does cuss, TG just starts to crumble. Why do you not know this? Oh! Thats right, because you are listening to the broadcast. After a race where Ryan is not so happy with the team or the car, he tells TG we will be having a meeting about this tonight (or tomorrow if it were a night race) Again just because he isnt showboating his anger for the "broadcast" Quit acting like he doesnt say anything. You probably know the least about Ryan of all the posters on here. Why? Oh! thats right. You listen to the broadcast! When Ryan ever does get mad at his team on the radio you will never hear it because "the broadcast" doesnt follow Ryan. They like the whiney B!tchy types, that make for good TV.
BTW Danica does whine. I listen to her radio as well. She isnt B!tching at her team simply whines (at times but I admit she is getting better)
your posts my friend are comical, wrapped in a little annoying package LOL

BTW the bottom line is still the same.
Whether you want to blame Ryan, The CC, or any other part of the team. Not changing a mediocre team for four years is all on the owner. I never hear from Haas, but Tony says he wants all his teams to be championship caliber. So when do we call BullImage
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Post Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:24 pm

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palino_s wrote:
Schmoopy1000 wrote:1st off Tony is an owner of SHR, Ryan is not. They make changes to his championship team while leaving Ryans mediocre team the same. Dont even dream that Tony & Haas dont see that the 39 team is in mediocry. That all falls on ownership no matter what a driver says or thinks. They have meetings every single week, so quit with the ownership doesnt know the team sucks without Ryan saying so. Also I think it takes more of a man not to talk trash to thwe media & keep behind closed doors.
Bringing up Danica is simply funny. We all know she is a whiner when things arent perfect. LOL
You call it fire, so be it. She was whining last weekend & when she finally did what the CC wanted her to, the car did exactly what he said it would.
Anyone thinkng Ryan doesnt drive hard or doesnt have any fire doesnt pay attention. He is driving harder than most of those guys out there, because he is driving his heart out with a crap handling car most weekends.
I would rather Ryan act the way he is, than become a whiner. When a team is mediocre it is ownerships job to change something (I was hoping they would change drivers personally)
No matter if you want to say it is the crew, the CC or the driver, it still falls on ownership to make a change.

Check mate! :mrgreen:


you needs to watching last season again.. Tony had more troubles with Grubb before Chase.. He had also mediocre team but he goes out and won championship.. That is difference between champion and good driver.. I agree Gibson is problem, but I dont think it is 100% Gibson's fault.. Ryan needs more aggresive and find chemistry with his crew chiefs (Gibson is his 4th crew chief, but he had chemistry only with Borland)..

Last year, SHR had some problems:
1st - Bobby Hutchens was fired - SHR was finding new competition director..
2nd - Darian was problem whole season - SHR knows it - SHR was finding new crew chief..
3rd - Danica was comming and Smoke wanted Mark Martin - SHR was finding other new crew chief and whole new team..
4th - Issues with sponsorship - They needs sponsor for Ryan and for Mark (They find for Ryan, dont find for Mark)..
5th - Ryan and Gibson lost their chemistry in Chase - That means also finding 3rd new crew chief..

They had bigger problems than Gibson and Grubb.. But they knew about problems with Darian before Chase.. If they knew about problems with Gibson before Chase, maybe they find someone for Ryan..

This year - they have issues with sponsorship (again).. They knows about problems with Gibson.. I hope they is finding two new crew chiefs (for Ryan and for Danica)..

Team also needs new crew chief for Chase because they are struggling on 1.5 ovals.. Zippy and Steve are same JGR school, they needs somebody with new ideas.. I dont think they find new crew chief for Ryan before Chase, but Matt Borland will be good crew chief for Ryan (for this year Chase)..

Borland will never CC again for his own reasons. Outside of that, this is an entirely different car than when Borland CC.
as far 1.5 mile tracks. I dont know about Tony, but Ryan has always had issues on them since coming to SHR (they used to be a str. of his) because TG is clueless on aero tracks. Although I like your way of thinking of Zippy & Addington being from the same school of thought. That is a good point.
As far as Grubb do you realize he is the winnest Crew Chief the last 2 yrs. by almost double.
The last 4 yrs. He & Chad are tied for being the winniest CC.
When Grubb was here. Tony almost always had a competitve car. He won every year & had a chance to win over twice that amount. So if Tony & Grubb werent getting along, they could have done what a lot of top caliber teams done & change of CC's. Problem with that is Grubb is lightyears better than TG. No way Tony would want TG as his CC.
Chemistry means nothing to a mediocre team. To say Ryan & TG had Chemistry or lost it doesnt matter. They are not a top caliber team, & changes would have made long ago if the #39 team was apart of any of the other big name teams.
Again Bottomline is if a team is underpreforming it is up to Ownership to fix it! (try anyways)

I dont know. Maybe they will pass TG off to Danica (since I believe TG has something on Tony & cant be fired LOL) & ryan will get whoever the new CC comes in.
But by now I just have the attitude of Ryans team is just the redheaded Step child of SHR. So I doubt any changes comes.
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Post Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:58 pm

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Schmoopy1000 wrote:
palino_s wrote:
Schmoopy1000 wrote:1st off Tony is an owner of SHR, Ryan is not. They make changes to his championship team while leaving Ryans mediocre team the same. Dont even dream that Tony & Haas dont see that the 39 team is in mediocry. That all falls on ownership no matter what a driver says or thinks. They have meetings every single week, so quit with the ownership doesnt know the team sucks without Ryan saying so. Also I think it takes more of a man not to talk trash to thwe media & keep behind closed doors.
Bringing up Danica is simply funny. We all know she is a whiner when things arent perfect. LOL
You call it fire, so be it. She was whining last weekend & when she finally did what the CC wanted her to, the car did exactly what he said it would.
Anyone thinkng Ryan doesnt drive hard or doesnt have any fire doesnt pay attention. He is driving harder than most of those guys out there, because he is driving his heart out with a crap handling car most weekends.
I would rather Ryan act the way he is, than become a whiner. When a team is mediocre it is ownerships job to change something (I was hoping they would change drivers personally)
No matter if you want to say it is the crew, the CC or the driver, it still falls on ownership to make a change.

Check mate! :mrgreen:


you needs to watching last season again.. Tony had more troubles with Grubb before Chase.. He had also mediocre team but he goes out and won championship.. That is difference between champion and good driver.. I agree Gibson is problem, but I dont think it is 100% Gibson's fault.. Ryan needs more aggresive and find chemistry with his crew chiefs (Gibson is his 4th crew chief, but he had chemistry only with Borland)..

Last year, SHR had some problems:
1st - Bobby Hutchens was fired - SHR was finding new competition director..
2nd - Darian was problem whole season - SHR knows it - SHR was finding new crew chief..
3rd - Danica was comming and Smoke wanted Mark Martin - SHR was finding other new crew chief and whole new team..
4th - Issues with sponsorship - They needs sponsor for Ryan and for Mark (They find for Ryan, dont find for Mark)..
5th - Ryan and Gibson lost their chemistry in Chase - That means also finding 3rd new crew chief..

They had bigger problems than Gibson and Grubb.. But they knew about problems with Darian before Chase.. If they knew about problems with Gibson before Chase, maybe they find someone for Ryan..

This year - they have issues with sponsorship (again).. They knows about problems with Gibson.. I hope they is finding two new crew chiefs (for Ryan and for Danica)..

Team also needs new crew chief for Chase because they are struggling on 1.5 ovals.. Zippy and Steve are same JGR school, they needs somebody with new ideas.. I dont think they find new crew chief for Ryan before Chase, but Matt Borland will be good crew chief for Ryan (for this year Chase)..

Borland will never CC again for his own reasons. Outside of that, this is an entirely different car than when Borland CC.
as far 1.5 mile tracks. I dont know about Tony, but Ryan has always had issues on them since coming to SHR (they used to be a str. of his) because TG is clueless on aero tracks. Although I like your way of thinking of Zippy & Addington being from the same school of thought. That is a good point.
As far as Grubb do you realize he is the winnest Crew Chief the last 2 yrs. by almost double.
The last 4 yrs. He & Chad are tied for being the winniest CC.
When Grubb was here. Tony almost always had a competitve car. He won every year & had a chance to win over twice that amount. So if Tony & Grubb werent getting along, they could have done what a lot of top caliber teams done & change of CC's. Problem with that is Grubb is lightyears better than TG. No way Tony would want TG as his CC.
Chemistry means nothing to a mediocre team. To say Ryan & TG had Chemistry or lost it doesnt matter. They are not a top caliber team, & changes would have made long ago if the #39 team was apart of any of the other big name teams.
Again Bottomline is if a team is underpreforming it is up to Ownership to fix it! (try anyways)

I dont know. Maybe they will pass TG off to Danica (since I believe TG has something on Tony & cant be fired LOL) & ryan will get whoever the new CC comes in.
But by now I just have the attitude of Ryans team is just the redheaded Step child of SHR. So I doubt any changes comes.


For first - last year before Chase #39 was better than #14.. Darian made many bad calls.. Many races they sucked.. For example Martinsville - first race was horrible, second race - #14 used #39 setup.. 75% of race was Tony behind Ryan, but still Tony won race and Ryan finished 10th.. That also say something about drivers.. Ryan needs fire from 2003..

For second - About Borland - I said only for this year Chase..

For third - you say something about Jimmie-Chad-Darian.. I think Gibson was Jeff Gordon's car chief from 1998 to 2002..

And If Ryan doesnt make Chase, it is big chance for change his crew chief.. They arent stupid, second year they have problem with sponsorship, that result isnt help.. Imho Gene Haas made decision about Grubb, not Tony..
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Post Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:45 pm

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the Haas thing about Grubb I hadnt thought of.
About Ryan & being aggressive. Some are saying he is to aggressive (usually those listening to "the broadcast") & some say he has no fire & isnt agressive enough.
You have to understand you cant be the guy you want him to be with a crap car. He would just end up in the infield with no car like the Busch Brothers often do, when they over drive their car.

About Borland. I just dont think he would be a good CC right now with all the changes to the cars from when he was a CC. He hasnt been apart of that aspect of the car for many years.

As far as TG I wouldnt mind him being a car chief again even for the #39 team. They have brought fast cars to the race track, only to screw them up later. He just doesnt belong on top of the pit box.
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Post Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:12 pm

Re: newman takes pay cut to stay at SHR

It's only logical Newman would take a pay cut. He's already set for life financially. This is Newman's 12TH year in stock car racing. His 10TH year full time. If he only made $4,000,000.00 for 10 years that's $40,000,000.00 and I know he's made much more than that! ;)

Just hope his current owners will help Newman's team get a lot better! :D
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Post Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:10 am

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hE IS SUCH A GOOD GUY good luck next year
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