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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:38 am

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SO SORRY Racer1, i thought this website was for fans to post their own opinions, and comments about certain topics. If your looking for facts, why don't you go look at the actual media websites. Just try to post your so called "facts" their. Something to keep in mind, maybe not everybody is i guess as edcuated as you about Danica, but the way your acting surely isn't going to teach anybody the facts either, try being a little more civil, i know i learned my lesson a couple of weeks ago, sorry Smokeshow14. A good teacher is one that will listen, and educate through civility.
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:59 pm

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Most of you here that clearly dont like her need to simply not post your crap as you clealry dont have a clue about her so unless you have facts to post--go whine about Ryan and his lousy crew according to you experts supposedly, and leave the Danica info and comments to those who clealry know more then you--have a nice day. 8-)


Well, you are in the Ryan thread after all. There is a Danica thread if you'd rather post there to avoid us whinny Ryan fans. Just a thought...
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:39 pm

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chevy39fan wrote:The bottom line is. I think we all feel there's a chemistry or lack of knowledge that is holding back Team #39. It's not all Tony Gibson either. He's just an easy target. Like blaming the head coach of a football team. 8-)

What has made Team #48 so good is there ability to experiment with the Nascar rules and achieving better balanced race cars as a result. Better balance equals faster speeds in the corners. That's what it's all about really. Almost all Nascar race cars are fast on a straightaway. It's how fast they can maneuver a track "corner"(entering,center and exit). It's only logical. :shock:

Team #39 struggles with car balance......loose....tight.....tight...loose never a happy medium. So, they are lacking creativity in areas they are afraid to get into in fear of Nascar handing out a fine. Team #48 will take those risks regardless! ;)


I am so glad you said this Chevy. I dislike Gibson as much as Schmoopy (okay maybe not as much). But it isn't all his fault and he has become a scapegoat on this site big time. It is like when in doubt blame Gibson. And I am sorry but that is not fair.

You said ti best with everything you said. The is just something not there for the 39 team. They can be good, they can win a race and finish top ten in points. But they have never been able to be serious championship contenders. Maybe it's the team as a whole, maybe it's Ryan. Maybe he is too comfortable. Ryan is a really good driver, but he hasn't really ever contended for a championship either.

This is what a lot of fans forget. NASCAR is a team sport. Ryan has a part, Gibson has a part, the car chief has a part, and so on and so forth. Something does have to change. And maybe them missing the chase for the second time in the last three seasons might do something.
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:38 pm

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Smokeshow14 wrote:
I am so glad you said this Chevy. I dislike Gibson as much as Schmoopy (okay maybe not as much). But it isn't all his fault and he has become a scapegoat on this site big time. It is like when in doubt blame Gibson. And I am sorry but that is not fair.

You said ti best with everything you said. The is just something not there for the 39 team. They can be good, they can win a race and finish top ten in points. But they have never been able to be serious championship contenders. Maybe it's the team as a whole, maybe it's Ryan. Maybe he is too comfortable. Ryan is a really good driver, but he hasn't really ever contended for a championship either.

This is what a lot of fans forget. NASCAR is a team sport. Ryan has a part, Gibson has a part, the car chief has a part, and so on and so forth. Something does have to change. And maybe them missing the chase for the second time in the last three seasons might do something.
I appreciate the accolades SS14. I haven't missed a race with Ryan in it since 2001 so I feel I know him pretty well.

It's not just Gibson...as you said it is a team effort. I make fun of him with my captions in mostly good taste. He's a good man seriously. Ryan likes him a lot. I get all that. But, to the fan. The team is defective!

Since we can't ask Ryan these burning questions we all have. It's all speculation and opinion. This is what we do on blogs!

Newman will never contend for a Championship unless he and his team can become more creative,consistent and his racing luck improves. Sure he tells the media what they want to hear but we see the hard cold facts each race!
TEAM #48 IS THE BEST! ALL OTHER TEAMS ARE STRIVING TO BE AS GOOD!
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:58 pm

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if go daddy give any sponsor money to the other teams at SHR, its very minute, if anything at all, if they were they would want a bigger piece of the cars to display their logo, not some lil sticker on the post and another one by the rear tire....
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:34 pm

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To Chevy39 & SS14.
I am gonna have to politely disagree.
It is as close to 100% TG's fault as it can get on the 39 team.
Yes when we complain or cry about TG most think it is just his inability to adjust a car to save his life. So that brings out the responses from you that says it isnt all his fault. Well that one particular reason isnt all his fault. Once you realize that between his inability to adjust a car, his inability to lead, his inability to strategize, & the fact he is the one guy that affect every aspect of a team that has been mediocre the whole time Ryan has been at SHR. He deals with (or suppose too) pit stall selections, the pit crews themselves who have sucked the whole time Ryan has been here. You dont see Chad Knaus mixing words when something is faultering on the 48's pit crew. Everything but the driving TG has his hands on (or is suppose too) & across the board the 39 team falls short compared to the top chase contending teams in the sport.
If you want to blame Ryan saying he isnt trying, because he is settling for running in the late teens or worse. Keep in mind, that is the best that car is gonna do. JJ & others wouldnt get that car farther up. So people watch Kyle, Kurt & some other drivers wreck there cars because they are "trying" so hard. That isnt better race car driving.
Anyone that listens to Ryans radio when driving those crap cars knows he is giving good info back to Gumby. & he is a lot of times out of breath trying so hard to get everything out of the POS car without wrecking it.
The only reason I dont say it is 100% Gumby's fault, is because Ryan should tell SHR to fix his team, instead of trying to do better with the same old crap. & no matter what Ownership should have fired or moved TG out of CC position long ago, whether anyone spoke up or not. I mean you cant realistically expect TG to demote himself all on his own do you. So yes when you dont get behind the scnes it is easy to say Ryan might not be trying as hard or that it isnt all TG's fault but to be bluntly honest, all roads that fall short does in fact lead back to TG. Not only his own shortcomings on the pit box, but he hasnt made any changes to that team as the maan in charge of that team. So as PC as you guys are trying to be for him. Bottomline he carries the burden for having the worst Chase team ever to be in a Chase.
So not only do I feel comfortable, but I feel completely correct when I say..........IT IS HIS FAULT!!!!!

Who knows he may make a good car chief, or other places in the shop, but he doesnt belong as a CC.

*Schmoop steps down from his soapbox*
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:25 am

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You go Schmoop!!!
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:03 am

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Time for a reality check here: Ryan could have 5-time J.J. crew and CC and he still probably wouldnt win much more as he simply isnt that great of a driver--time for the truth.
Great drivers can have great results even when the crew makes mistakes--average drivers Cant--simple enough. Accept it for what it is or just be angry all the time over something you cant do anything about anyway. Ryan is basically a top 10 driver if everything goes right and maybe slips into a top 5 or win like he did when the leaders crashed themselves and he lucked out and got the win this yr but that doesnt happen alot, and you guys know it. Ryans had a good career, lots of wins certainly to be proud of, but that was then and this is now and as drivers age their results usually fall off--just how it is, with few exceptions. Also note Dale Jr as comparison, as he has a great crew you might agree, but even though he finally won a race again this yr, will he ever win again?? Need i mention J Gordon lucking into a win this yr and they are talking about him not having IT anymore and he has a great crew also, but Sometimes it is just the driver. You Ryan fans may need to accept that and give up the cry-baby attitude all the time as its not going to change anything . IF Ryan wants a change its up to him to do something about it--whether he ever will or whether it would even help--end of story. 8-)
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:11 am

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so its ok for you to voice your opinion on ryan and but when it comes to danica no one can express their thoughts without you getting angry, maybe you need to face the facts that danica wont make a impact what so ever as a driver, she can barely hold on to tenth in the NW series when there is only a handful of drivers that are good, the rest are fillers
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:59 pm

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go get-um MJ
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:25 pm

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My post or comments on Ryans werent hatefull just an opinion based on what Ive seen from him and other drivers in comparison all yr but the sad part is--you cant tell the difference, which says it all.. 8-)
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:31 pm

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racer1 wrote:My post or comments on Ryans werent hatefull just an opinion based on what Ive seen from him and other drivers in comparison all yr but the sad part is--you cant tell the difference, which says it all.. 8-)

I believe that is what your opinion is based on.
Unfortunately that means you are only basing your opinion on what the Sheepherders (Media) are saying about the 39 team & Ryan Newman.
So you know what that pretty much makes ya! ;)
(I mean that in the nicest possible way!) :mrgreen:
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:33 pm

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gkbacb wrote:go get-um MJ


ya know what a good feature is?? its called the foe list in your control panel, you type a persons name on this list and they are blocked, you dont see the ramblings or the hate they spew out....
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:45 pm

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michaeljohn wrote:
gkbacb wrote:go get-um MJ


ya know what a good feature is?? its called the foe list in your control panel, you type a persons name on this list and they are blocked, you dont see the ramblings or the hate they spew out....

do you have me on your foe list? can you see my posts?
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& if you can, oops........ he said it, not me! *Schmoop points at SS14*
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Post Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:17 pm

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haha, schoomp i like it.

michaeljohn wrote:
gkbacb wrote:go get-um MJ


ya know what a good feature is?? its called the foe list in your control panel, you type a persons name on this list and they are blocked, you dont see the ramblings or the hate they spew out....


and yes i know about that feature MJ, but then i feel like i would be missing out on some very PROFESSIONAL FACTS, LOL, :lol: :lol: since that what this site seems to be all about.
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