Smokeshow14 wrote:Ryan's win at Martinsville was pure luck, nothing to do with Gibson.
I and nobody ever said that Grubb was one of the worst ccs in the history of cup. I did however note how inconsistent they were and that something was missing. Clearly management saw that too and a change was made.
SHR feels that perhaps the issues with the 39 are not limited to Gibson I guess. I just feel it is easier to judge someone who out there working their #### off while we sit and watch them. Schmoopy mentioned Gordon. Gordon had Letarte for five seasons and part of 2005. This is Newman's fourth season with Gibson.
Venting about Gibson is healthy. But blaming everything on him is not. It's unfair and unrealistic.
I only blame two things on him. Poor decision making on the box, & an incapability to think for himself on the box. (which could come from lack of confidence)
Put him in the shop & obviously he understands the in & outs of a car. They often times come to the track with a fast car, until the 1st pit stop. That is why I say he might be an awesome car chief. Who knows.
You guys complained about DG, meanwhile Tony had some of the best cars on the track & was in contention more often than not for wins & leads.
Ryan's team is very consistent. We know what to expect from it every week. & rarely are we wrong.
It is one of two things. The CC is lacking or the driver is lacking. (the pitcrew no matter what is definitely lacking) Now if you listen to his radio, I wouldnt be able to see how you couldnt conclude it is the CC that is lacking. At times he seems litterally clueless. This has been this way for three years. Also it wouldnt be exceptable if this was happening to Tony's team. All these things have proven facts attached to them. Funny thing is when we try to point out the logic behind our opinions, you turn & say a blanket statement in defense of tony or ownership. In my mind the only argument is to say it is the driver not the CC. Which would be an acceptable argument, just not one of my opinion.
So since you wont allow deductive reasoning, let me give you a fact that cant be argued."I"
in all my years of listening to all these CCs, have never heard a more clueless CC, on such a consistent basis. I have heard a CC have a bad race, or make a pretty bad decision. I have heard drivers be completely clueless sounding on how to explain what is wrong with a car (Dale Jr. comes to mind) We all have heard drivers pretty much lose it on a radio, & become a hinderence to the team. But none of this I have ever seen or heard of or even talked to other people that listen to team radioes that were as bad as TG. With the exception of Mike Shiplett. Heard some pretty bad things about him on a concsistent basis from a fan of his driver.
Tonys team has a bad race & they wanted to hang DG. I would have loved to have him on the 39 team. Tony won 5 races & almost won (or was in contention) probably close to another 5 races.
We are Happy when Ryan has the chance to sniff the top 5.
So until Stewart haas changes either the driver or the CC we can & should blame ownership for allowing this team to flounder in mediocry. Tony said himself he wanted to have two championship caliber teams before starting aa 3rd team. Obviously his attention isnt on the 39 team.
I do blame ownership
What do you think about that