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I'm glad the voting the way it did. To take away the focus on the military by way of being a sponsor is like taking away apple pie and ice cream. :D
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Awsome to hear it was turned down!
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Being a former soldier of the U.S. Army. I have heard this all before.

Next, they will want to ban Nascar because of the pollution or what ever!

After all the gum flapping is over. The show will go on and the U.S. Army will continue to support racing as usual. ;)
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Glad to hear it was turn down. I thought they were voting next week . Thanks for the infor. :D
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The thing we have to remember is that this would have affected more than just Ryan Newman. It would have affected all the other race teams that have military sponsorship on their cars whether it be a primary or minor sponsorship roll on their cars. Earnhardt Jr. and Jeff Gordon are two that come to mind.
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I don't know the woman so I hate to make a judgemental statement, but I wonder if she isn't just some ignorant politician who thinks we're all a bunch of stark-white hillbillies who take a break from screwing our sister to watch cars drive around.
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Smoke14TS wrote:I don't know the woman so I hate to make a judgemental statement, but I wonder if she isn't just some ignorant politician who thinks we're all a bunch of stark-white hillbillies who take a break from screwing our sister to watch cars drive around.

i was actually at her website, and she is for veterans, so maybe in her eyes getting rid of auto racing sponsorship that money could go to the older vets, i really dont think has to do with people in general, our government is messed up, both parties have messed it up
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peanut1439 wrote:Amendment to ban military sponsorship of #NASCAR teams fails 281-148. Democrats 118 to ban, 72 no ban; Republicans 30 to ban; 209 no ban.


I don't think anyone REALLY cares about a party breakdown,just the fact that it was voted down.And its obvious to me that ANY of our "elected officials" have never been to a Memorial Day or Veteran's Day race weekend.I have and to see the looks of "WOW" and feel the vibe that they get from being there,ANY of these "elected officials" that voted (REGARDLESS OF PARTY) :P , to ban it,should be EMBARRASSED..........................Respectfully submitted this 22nd day of February,2011......

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Interesting read from the General that runs the programs for the Army.
He is very PRO sponsorship and how it helps! They should really listen to him

http://www.nascar.com/news/110222/1on1-bfreakley/index.html
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Ryan Newman Racing for Turner Motorsports at Phoenix

Posted: 22 Feb 2011 03:08 PM PST

Turner Motorsports and Dollar General Racing have announced the addition of Ryan Newman to their 2011 all-star driver line-up. Newman is set to pilot the No. 30 Dollar General Chevrolet Impala in this weekend’s event at Phoenix International Raceway (PIR). In 62 NASCAR Nationwide Series (NNS) starts, the Sprint Cup Series star boasts seven wins, 17 top-five and 34 top-10 finishes. The man dubbed ‘rocket man’ has captured 12 pole awards and led a total of 1,491 laps.

Newman has made one NNS start at PIR where he finished 36 after leading four laps. In 17 Sprint Cup Series events at the track, he is credited with one win (April, 2010) and four pole awards.

Though he has only one NNS start at PIR, Newman has eight Nationwide Series starts at one-mile tracks. In those eight events he has accumulated one win, two pole awards, two top-five and three top-10 finishes.

Veteran crew chief Stewart Cooper will be leading the No. 30 Dollar General team this weekend at PIR. In addition to his time with the No. 30 car, Cooper calls the shots for Kasey Kahne when he pilots the No. 38 Chevy for Turner Motorsports.

The 2011 season marks the start of a new era for Turner Motorsports. The team has expanded in 2011 from a two-truck operation in the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series (NCWTS) to become the largest stand-alone multi-series team in NASCAR’s top-tier touring series, fielding three entries in the NCWTS and four entries in the NASCAR Nationwide Series (NNS). Three of the team’s regular NNS drivers (Jason Leffler, Reed Sorenson and Justin Allgaier) have been pegged as viable contenders to win the 2011 NNS driver championship.

Ryan Newman on racing at Phoenix with Turner Motorsports
“I’m looking forward to getting in a Nationwide car again and being associated with Turner Motorsports,” said Newman. “My Cup debut was at Phoenix back in 2000, so I enjoy racing there, but going around there has its moments. Both ends of the track are totally different, and it seems almost impossible to get both ends to work perfectly. I like a challenge — it keeps me on my toes. Hopefully it will be a fun night of racing.”
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OOPs, wrong thread again.. another 40 lashes with a wet noodle or is it 40 lashes from the wet noodle? hmm Will repost in proper place, wouldn't want to make such a bad booboo with the thread police watching...lol :roll:
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Sorry, posted in the wrong thread but never fear, the thread police caught it & just had to make a comment.
40 lashes with a wet noodle for me. hahahahahahahaha
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what do these stories have to do with the ban on military sponsorship???
its not hard to start a thread..............
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I hope this passes the thread police :roll:



The National Guard spends about $20 million to sponsor Dale Earnhardt Jr., NASCAR’s most popular driver. The U.S. Army pays $7.4 million to sponsor Ryan Newman. The U.S. Air Force doles out $1.6 million to sponsor AJ Allmendinger.
Some lawmakers believe those deals are excessive and unnecessary.
Rep. Betty McCollum, D-Minn., recently proposed an amendment that would have banned the Pentagon from using taxpayer dollars to sponsor NASCAR race teams. The House voted down the proposal last week by a 281-148 vote, but McCollum insisted the fight was far from over.
She planned to introduce broader legislation that would “prohibit taxpayer funds from being used for sponsorship of race cars, dragsters, Indy cars, and motorcycle racing.” If passed, it would affect just about every level of motorsports.
“This was a vote about priorities and making smart choices,” said Bill Harper, McCollum’s chief of staff. “With trillion dollar federal deficits, this vote to protect taxpayer-funded race cars shows that even a Tea Party Republican-led Congress is not serious about cutting wasteful spending.
“The American people need to know that a majority in Congress is willing to cut homeless veterans, community health centers, and family planning services, but spend millions of tax dollars for race cars.”
McCollum’s strong beliefs raised eyebrows at Daytona International Speedway, where NASCAR team owners, drivers and military officers kept a close eye on the Capitol Hill debate.
Lt. Gen. Benjamin C. Freakley, in charge of the U.S. Army Accessions Command, was at Daytona to promote a new Army sponsorship of NASCAR’s Drive for Diversity program, which aims to develop minority and female drivers and crew members. That sponsorship announcement was postponed because of the House vote.
Instead, Freakley found himself defending the Army’s sponsorship of Newman’s No. 39 Chevrolet.
Along with Newman’s sponsorship, the Army spends another $8 million for NASCAR programs that help recruiting efforts. The Army also spends $3.9 million to sponsor Tony Schumacher’s NHRA dragster.
The Air Force’s spending on its NASCAR program represents less than 2 percent of its marketing budget, and the National Guard’s outlay last year, $32.7 million, represented 14 percent of its marketing budget.
Freakley said the Army’s NASCAR sponsorship has dropped more than a third since 2009.
“We have (reduced) the races that we’re in, we’ve (reduced) our sponsorship because it’s the American people’s money. We recognize that, but, regardless, I have to invest in awareness,” Freakley said. “So, in some venue or another, I have to make some form of investment to make the American people aware of their Army and this is what we think is a good investment based on … return on investment.”
Freakley insisted it’s money well spent.
He said motorsports marketing generated more than 150,000 leads in 2010, with a third of them coming from NASCAR.
“We know that this is having an impact on our recruiting and helping our recruiters with their job,” Freakley said. “The alternative to this is having a recruiter walk up and down a mall and talk to about 150 people just to get one person to engage with them.”
Freakley couldn’t say how many recruits actually joined the Army because of the program, but said he hears stories all the time about teenagers who gain interest because of things that happen on or around the track.
Brig. Gen. Balan Ayyar, commander of the Air Force’s recruiting, said NASCAR is a perfect fit for the military.
“We have anecdotal data that suggests that the broad scope of our marketing strategy is working,” he said.
However, there are plenty of skeptics.
Some point to the government’s history of frivolous spending. Others believe motorsports marketing overlaps with television advertising campaigns and question whether racing events, which tend to attract older audiences, should be considered a fertile recruiting ground for the military.
McCollum and her supporters point out that the Marine Corps, the Navy and the Coast Guard eliminated their NASCAR sponsorships in recent years, and suggested everyone else should follow.
NASCAR, meanwhile, viewed the debate as a chance to prove the value the sport offers military recruiting efforts.
“Last week, military sponsors and NASCAR received a strong show of support in Congress,” NASCAR spokesman Ramsey Poston said. “The vote helped raise awareness of military sponsors in NASCAR and what a remarkable recruiting tool it has been for the military.
“There’s a direct link in keeping our military strong and our country safe.”
The House vote was welcome news around the NASCAR garage—even though it might not be the last one.
“Obviously, this is a program that works for them or they wouldn’t be part of this sport,” said two-time NASCAR champion Tony Stewart, who co-owns the Stewart-Haas Racing team that fields Newman’s car. “It’s been a very successful tool for the U.S. Army. Luckily, we get to continue that program with them. That was good news for us.”
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midwesternsmoke wrote:
peanut1439 wrote:Amendment to ban military sponsorship of #NASCAR teams fails 281-148. Democrats 118 to ban, 72 no ban; Republicans 30 to ban; 209 no ban.


I don't think anyone REALLY cares about a party breakdown,just the fact that it was voted down.And its obvious to me that ANY of our "elected officials" have never been to a Memorial Day or Veteran's Day race weekend.I have and to see the looks of "WOW" and feel the vibe that they get from being there,ANY of these "elected officials" that voted (REGARDLESS OF PARTY) :P , to ban it,should be EMBARRASSED..........................Respectfully submitted this 22nd day of February,2011......

Douglas C. Niedermeyer, Sgt at Arms


AGREED!! i didnt post this to say ya to one party, when it has been both parties that has let this country down the last 10 years........
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