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should have never been a issue, but they had to use that stupid camera system
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:39 pm

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"I'll wreck my mom to win a championship. I'll wreck your mom to win a championship." - Tony Stewart, November 17, 2011

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Post Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:37 pm

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ya that statement they made makes them look stupid..... how can you enforce a rule when no one is there to watch them...
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Nascar laid-off a whole bunch of pit road officials when they got their fancy new camera system. It put more $ in the top brass's pockets. Policing their "new" stance will be arbitrary, at best, until they hire more pit road officials. Their cameras simply CANNOT catch every violation! The cameras only monitor the right sides of the cars. Also, in their press release, it doesn't mention that the lugnuts be TIGHT!!! Just present! :roll:
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:12 pm

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"in a safe and secure manner" = tight
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:08 pm

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HH, how can a camera tell how tight a lugnuts is? :shock:
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:26 pm

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They could make the tire changer wear a camera on his helmet
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Tina, there would be helmet-cam malfunctions...
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:47 pm

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alenigma wrote:Tina, there would be helmet-cam malfunctions...


LOL No Doubt but that would most likely be there way of policing it instead of bringing back the people and paying them
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alenigma wrote:Nascar laid-off a whole bunch of pit road officials when they got their fancy new camera system. It put more $ in the top brass's pockets. Policing their "new" stance will be arbitrary, at best, until they hire more pit road officials. Their cameras simply CANNOT catch every violation! The cameras only monitor the right sides of the cars. Also, in their press release, it doesn't mention that the lugnuts be TIGHT!!! Just present! :roll:



from what i seen on fox back in 2015, no one lost their job, they all went to the truck to run the video system
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:54 am

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Tina DeBose wrote:
alenigma wrote:Tina, there would be helmet-cam malfunctions...


LOL No Doubt but that would most likely be there way of policing it instead of bringing back the people and paying them



At two tire changers per team that would be around 80 cameras to be monitored per pit stop sequence. Dooable but chaotic, that is for sure.
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And it cost Tony $35K to make it happen --bet they didn't renege on that fine though. It'll be much safer again for all concerned as a runaway tire hopping the fence was a disaster in the making for sure. It was just a matter of time.
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Post Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:45 pm

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The problem starts with how NASCAR started out saying the teams could police their own lug nuts.
After one team dropped using the 5th lug another started eliminating the 4 and it went on from there. Sure the track and type of racing is considered by the CCs making the decisions but now we have the France gang laying out solid rules to look like they are in control and those rules from what I have heard are not practical. Even back when there were inspectors in each pit, lugs were missing at the end of the day. But the consequences were not so astronomical. This I think could end up a mess and have to be fixed again.
NASCAR over reacted to make things difficult and flex muscle.
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Post Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:10 pm

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I think there needs to be an oversight committee, made up if retired drivers, officials and owners that can work as "negotiators' between NASCAR and drivers (teams) when problems such as this arise. Each side presents their opinion and the committee makes their recomnendation, that which is in the sports best interest.
Not to be confused wth the appeals panel, this would be a more " informal" type mediation. Somewhere, there has got to be a reasonable solution without NASCAR saying "this way or else".
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