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Post Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:16 am

HMS Strategy?

So, DW yesterday kept talking about how Chad has this new setup that allows the racecar to come to the driver about mid way of the race and march straight to the front. I was very skeptical until Dale Jr., Jimmy Johnson, and Jeff Gordon were all in or around the top ten shortly after mid way point. Jr. and Jimmy were 20's to 30's before mid way. What is the deal? I'm sure it has something to do with the timing of the heat in the track, the rubber on the track etc..but how does one formulate this type of theory? Thats crazy!

To be honest, as wicked loose as both Jr. and Johnsons's car looked early on, I wouldn't want the new setup. Seems both of them were in some bad spots at times that could have turned into a disaster.

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well bein a fan of the 48, they were chasing that car all day, and to have that kind of finish they did yesterday was, well kinda shocking,
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michaeljohn wrote:well bein a fan of the 48, they were chasing that car all day, and to have that kind of finish they did yesterday was, well kinda shocking,



I agree. So do you think HMS has some sort of "mystery" setup they are trying to enforce or do you think Chad and Jimmy just worked their butts off to balance the car to get the finish they did? The way DW wants to present it was that it was "all part of the plan". What do you think?
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Post Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:57 pm

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It's funny the true HMS cars except for Jr towards the end ran bad (Gordon blew a tire). While Tony and Ryan who run the hms engines and chassis finished 2nd and 5th with Tony dominating (he had the 2nd fastest car I've seen on a non plate track ever only to Kurt Busch's car at Atlanta in 2009). It was kinda cool seeing Tony lap JJ there for all the people who think HMS gives SHR bad equitment.
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Smokeshow14 wrote:It's funny the true HMS cars except for Jr towards the end ran bad (Gordon blew a tire). While Tony and Ryan who run the hms engines and chassis finished 2nd and 5th with Tony dominating (he had the 2nd fastest car I've seen on a non plate track ever only to Kurt Busch's car at Atlanta in 2009). It was kinda cool seeing Tony lap JJ there for all the people who think HMS gives SHR bad equitment.

he didnt lap him for long there chief..............
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Launch39 wrote:
michaeljohn wrote:well bein a fan of the 48, they were chasing that car all day, and to have that kind of finish they did yesterday was, well kinda shocking,



I agree. So do you think HMS has some sort of "mystery" setup they are trying to enforce or do you think Chad and Jimmy just worked their butts off to balance the car to get the finish they did? The way DW wants to present it was that it was "all part of the plan". What do you think?


i think it is a media make up story, they also said this week that JJ wants a better handling car and less HP, cmon when has a driver asked for less horsepower??? then in listening to the radio communications it sounded normal, besides if chad was up to something, he wont talk about it on the radio or to the media about it,
personally i think they are at the end of their "historic run" a lot of teams have picked up the pace and caught up to them, and i think that racing luck they had for so many years is starting to run dry,
im not bein a negative fan, but a realistic one, like i always say, doesnt matter if they come in 1st or 43rd, as long as they do their best that is all i care about, he wont race forever so i appreciate seeing him race every weekend.
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michaeljohn wrote:
Smokeshow14 wrote:It's funny the true HMS cars except for Jr towards the end ran bad (Gordon blew a tire). While Tony and Ryan who run the hms engines and chassis finished 2nd and 5th with Tony dominating (he had the 2nd fastest car I've seen on a non plate track ever only to Kurt Busch's car at Atlanta in 2009). It was kinda cool seeing Tony lap JJ there for all the people who think HMS gives SHR bad equitment.

he didnt lap him for long there chief..............

Yeah 5 time did get his lap back and gained about 9 spots (he was 25th when he was lapped), but I was shocked by his performance I thought he was going to be at least top five, but that shows you if HMS's best bullet struggles and SHR can dominate and finish 2nd and 5th that SHR is definetly not getting handy downs and the success isn't all because of HMS.

JJ struggled at Phoenix too but was able to get it righted. I'll wait until Indy if they are still running like this to stay his dynasty is over.
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I am in no way a fan of Jeff Gordon, but I found myself feeling sorry for him when he cut his tire down.

Now if this had happen to Jimmie Johnson, I would have been celebrating, figure that one out. Second thought, don't. I thought it was terrific when Tony lapped him. I was so blown away, I immediately called my aunt who hung up on me because she didn't want to hear it.
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Post Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:54 am

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beaverpond wrote:I was so blown away, I immediately called my aunt who hung up on me because she didn't want to hear it.

Too funny! lolol
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Post Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:23 pm

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i heard the reason he got lapped was cuz JJ likes to drive with his cup trophies and that tends to weigh him down, hence go slower............ :mrgreen:
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They'll have to try moving the trophies around in the car to keep it "balanced." :mrgreen: :lol:
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Just my 2 cents worth... JJ started out slow last year too didn't he? They will catch up like they always do.. Tony was ahead in points in 2009 from the start practically and dropped by Chase time. I hope it's not a repeat for both of them..lol
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Post Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:12 am

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What didn't help Tony at the beginning of the Chase was he went from starting 2nd in points to starting 6th in the chase after a poor finish in NH. He was 10 points behind at the beginning of NH to 74 points behind after NH in 2009.
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