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no flames..........

Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:45 pm

after 10 years the 24 car wont be running flames with the dupont scheme, they have a picture of it at jayski.....

Re: no flames..........

Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:48 pm

opps, my bad its a special paint scheme marking the 20 years sponsorship....

Re: no flames..........

Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:51 pm

Now do not take this the wrong way.
I like to pick on my daughter in law about JG #24 she is a big fan of his.
When DuPont scaled back and AARP came on board I told her that JG #24 went from
The Rainbow Kid to the Geriatric Kid .
Man she didn’t take that well at first then it dawned on he I was just picking on her.
Some times my seance of hummer get's me into trouble.
Last edited by OldTimmer on Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: no flames..........

Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:33 pm

michaeljohn wrote:opps, my bad its a special paint scheme marking the 20 years sponsorship....


this is where I come to get all my nascar news, rumors, photos, articles, and tweets....don't ever lie to me again :x :x :x

Re: no flames..........

Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:20 am

geriatric kid, thats pretty good, doesnt even feel like 20 years since he came to cup....

jam i pride my self on taking the truth and stretching it to fit my warped logic tyvm!!!!

Re: no flames..........

Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:16 am

It's replacing the flames scheme for all of DuPont's races, so your initial post was right.

Looks like an updated version of the "end of the rainbow" car Jeff drove during Speedweek at Charlotte in May 2000, has a resemblance to the 200 Years of DuPont car Jeff ran in Speedweeks at Daytona in 2002 as well.

Re: no flames..........

Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:37 pm

michaeljohn wrote:geriatric kid, thats pretty good, doesnt even feel like 20 years since he came to cup....



OOOOOOO MJ! My heart! My heart! Has it really been 20 years? Jeez... it has. I guess it's about time "Jeffy" the rainbow kid got a new paint job. :-)

Just for a joke.... the 24 team ought to paint scheme a car this next season to LOOK like T-Rex. Just look... nothing funny going on, to get in their heads. hee hee hee

Re: no flames..........

Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:28 pm

yes smokie 20 years.... i was a young lad of 25/26, i remember his first race in atlanta, because that following monday, i got my back operated on, he had that horrible mustache and mullet,
wasnt the trex nascar confiscated because it was too fast, and it didnt even break anything in the rulebook?

Re: no flames..........

Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:52 pm

Wow... I must have been 12.... yeah 12 at the time..... hee hee hee

More like 27 - 28. :-(

And a big HA HA HA HA! I randomly forget about the mullet & "porn mustache" ! ! Jamo ought to be good to post a pic... hee hee hee

and yes, you're right (( Don't you just love to hear that? OK, I'll say it again... but only one more time....)) you are right about the T-REX car. (( I'm never calling it a " C O T " ))


link - http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/cheat/news/story?id=2963407

Here's a good story from 2007 - about it -

Updated: August 9, 2007, 12:22 PM ET


Evernham pushed envelope with T-Rex Chevrolet

Is there a difference between cheating and innovation in NASCAR? Ray Evernham wasn't so sure after he and Rex Stump created a car that pushed the limit of every gray area in the rulebook.


Newton By David Newton - ESPN.com - Archive

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Ray Evernham still laughs when people claim the T-Rex Chevrolet that Jeff Gordon drove to victory in the 1997 Winston All-Star race was illegal.

"That car had no cheating on it," said Evernham, then Gordon's crew chief at Hendrick Motorsports. "That car was built by what the rules were, and it never became illegal until after The Winston when NASCAR wrote rules to make the car illegal."

The car in large part was the engineering marvel of Hendrick engineer Rex Stump, who at Evernham's request built a car that pushed the limit of every gray area in NASCAR's rulebook without crossing the line into cheating.

It single-handedly forced NASCAR to add several pages to its rulebook and sparked the engineering boom the sport enjoys today.

"Gary Nelson had seen the car as it was being built," Evernham said of the former director of NASCAR's premier series and initial developer of the Car of Tomorrow. "That car was perfectly legal until after The Winston, when other car owners complained and said they would have to build all new cars to keep up with that car.

"So NASCAR then rewrote a lot of rules to make that car illegal."

The car didn't consist of a lot of trick gadgets like those some of NASCAR's great cheaters were known to employ then and even today.

It was completely an engineering creation, from the way the rear springs and shocks were mounted to the raised door bars and front struts to the stiffness of the frame and the size of the tubing that allowed the floor pan to be raised inside the car a half inch.

"The rear suspension was different on the car, the way all the bracing was done and whatnot," Evernham recalled. "That car had what we called raised door bars and raised front struts.

"The chassis itself was built differently than our other stuff. But it wasn't cheating. There were no rules against it."

Evernham said a variation of the car actually had been used by other Hendrick drivers without much success.

"There were a couple of times people ran the car, and nobody really like it," Evernham said. "They just didn't give it what they wanted. I was kind of the guy that would try stuff for Rex.

Evernham said the car was about a decade ahead of its time in terms of engineering.

"It used the bottom of the car for aerodynamics," he said. "Now, everybody gets the nose real close to the ground with the spoiler. That car could kind of do the same thing without having to do that.

"Rex started with a clean sheet of paper and built the car in the true sense of engineering the way the car should be built."

The car earned Evernham a reputation for pushing the gray area that continued into this season, when all three of his Evernham Motorsports cars were penalized after failing post-qualifying inspection for the Daytona 500 in February.

The car was so sophisticated that NASCAR seized it as an educational tool.

"I would say that Rex is really the guy that was ahead of the curve for engineering in the sport," said Evernham, who was fined $60,000 by NASCAR in 1995 for using illegal suspension parts on Gordon's car. "He started running simulations way before the other guys came on board.

"And that goes back to Rick [Hendrick] being willing to start an engineering department when nobody else would."

Re: no flames..........

Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:39 pm

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Re: no flames..........

Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:32 pm

michaeljohn wrote:yes smokie 20 years.... i was a young lad of 25/26, i remember his first race in atlanta, because that following monday, i got my back operated on, he had that horrible mustache and mullet,
wasnt the trex nascar confiscated because it was too fast, and it didnt even break anything in the rulebook?


i wasnt even alive 20 years ago lol

Re: no flames..........

Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:04 pm

austin024 wrote:i wasnt even alive 20 years ago lol

Young wipper-snapper! ;) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

20 years ago I was already married & divorced twice.

Re: no flames..........

Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:57 pm

Dang most of you are young wipper snappers I was in my early 30's 20 years ago.
Yes AARP is in my neer future lol.

Re: no flames..........

Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:59 pm

you can get your aarp card at 50 eh?

Re: no flames..........

Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:26 am

OldTimmer wrote:Yes AARP is in my neer future lol.

Guess I got you beat... I've been a card-carrying member for several years now. ;) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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