All things Ryan
Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:31 am
i dont normally watch that show, but they were discussing ryans future at SHR and pretty much said "his days are numbered." the one dude said "and thats putting it nicely." also talked about how ryan needs to step up and not "luck in." to his finishes and that many in the garage feel ryan is a B level driver.
so take it for what its worth.............. i feel ryan does need to step up if he wants to get a top ride.....doesnt mean im disrespecting him, its just what i have seen the last couple years....
Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:08 am
yeah but Dillner is a dooch. Ryan drove his A$S off to get the top tens in not so great car. So I never put any credibility into what he says. if it were a driver they backed they would say how good he does when he doesn't have bad luck.
Although you are right about one thing. I am afraid if he doesn't have a good season he may find himself in subpar ride
HeII if does have a good season he might find himself in a subpar ride.
Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:32 am
thats why i rarely watch those shows, because they are giving their opinions and chances are there are no facts behind what they are saying, if its not on jayski i tend not to believe it,
those shows are self serving for blowhards to ramble on..........
Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:52 am
Ryan has always seem to be a guy of neutral emotion. He's so hard to "read" as far as his emotions and maybe he likes that?
So much of racing these days depend upon getting help from others in order to be successful. There are way to many spotless race teams that do not make mistakes. And even if they do they recover extremely fast. Then throw in good or bad racing luck. Newmans career can be best described as a roller coaster that often looses its wheels.......get's repaired........and starts all over again!
Ryan doesn't worry about anything. He has developed a very hard racing shell after 12 years in this great sport. He has been trained well by Baker and others. So, where he ends up will be unknown until it's officially announced.
Does anybody on this earth think a die hard fan like myself enjoys seeing his favorite Nascar driver struggle year after year? It's very depressing and un-inspiring and all I see is the usual post interview of,"We didn't get the finish we wanted today!" For once I would love for Ryan to just "let loose".......I know, will never happen in my life time. There is no driving style on earth you can use to avoid wrecks,flat tires on and on etc.!
The HUB is all opinions based upon a dabble of fact. Just like this site in most cases. You just can't take it all so seriously and I surely don't!
Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:07 am
great, wish I had seen this. Actually I don't mind Dillner and Matt Clark most of the time as they are analysts who will actually give you an opinion or report a rumor on air....almost all Nascar media on TV are vanilla and constantly cheerlead and too afraid to offer a real opinion.
I do question this though as if Ryan hadn't blown a tire and finished top 10 this probably would not have been a subject, so they are just taking the opportunity to pile on, looking at his glum numbers this season. But, honestly, they are probably right, his days are numbered for sure at Stewart-Haas, I'm almost sure this season is it, but he does need to step up no matter his future at SHR.
The "B-level" driver comment though is kind of a low blow...I'm not sure where either one would get this information as I don't think drivers are talking about one another in those terms - but in the same, I've sensed that for quite some time he hasn't garnered the respect of a top-tier driver. Which lets face it he may not be, something changed after 2004-05 when things started going south with the Penske cars, those cars were really, really bad for a couple years and he lost confidence and seemed to lose feel of the race car that has never been regained even after getting in a better car, and I think he got soft to a degree after getting married and having kids.
The curious case of Ryan Newman...can't recall a driver career path like this before, his first 3 years he was a sensation and seemed to have complete grasp of the car and series in those days, completely dropped off for awhile after that but because the car went terrible on him, has since been up and down but mostly fairly mediocre.
Maybe comparable to what we saw with Jeff Burton and possibly Carl Edwards now? I guess it can happen.
Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:08 pm
i agree with the comparison to burton, for awhile there jeff could do no wrong, then all of the sudden they had no sponsors for the 99 and all the time was given to kurt and biffle, to me it all went down hill when rusty started to rag on newman publicly and after matt left, he seemed to get a new CC every year. I thought for sure he would have more success at SHR, maybe he did peak and this is as good as it gets, i really have no clue......
Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:59 pm
well, the career paths of Kurt Busch and Dale Jr. aren't a whole lot different either I guess, both of whom had their best years earlier in their career especially between 2002-04 like Ryan.
Kurt started taking a nose dive starting in 2006 when he joined Penske, just when things were sucking for Ryan there. Call it a Penske curse I guess? But Kurt had some scattered success in the 2/22 especially in 2010 when those cars got good again - so I don't get the impression he as a driver really tailed off a whole lot, just had those incidents and now is relegated to an RCR satellite.
Jr.? is actually a pretty good comparison. Both him and Ryan tailed off dramatically after 2004 and have both had 5 or less wins since, both have been in Hendrick equipment, it just looks like Jr. has it going now but the past several years Ryan had been doing more in his 39 car. As of now though I would say the 88 is just a better car and better team than the 39, especially getting to share the same shop as the 48.
Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:10 pm
the reason the 88 has good cars is because chad had to babysit them for the first year and teach them, but jr still cant finish the deal, sounds funny, but i could see danica winning before he does again.....
Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:22 pm
michaeljohn wrote:the reason the 88 has good cars is because chad had to babysit them for the first year and teach them, but jr still cant finish the deal, sounds funny, but i could see danica winning before he does again.....
you know she doesn't do too bad on the RC's, if certain things lined up for her, I could see her winning before he does again.
Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:21 am
i dont have anything against Jr, but i could never be a fan, his fans are wound up too tight and act like he does no wrong
Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:37 pm
MJ, I know what you are saying about Jr Fans...my Aunt is one of them. Oh my word, I hear about it almost every time he has a good race and this season that has been almost on a weekly basis.
I liked getting calls from Uncle just so could rag on her to shut her up, but Tony has to do better is the only way that is going to work...needless to say we have not had much to brag about lately.
Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:01 pm
sorry to hear that BP, i dunno if they expect him to one day to turn the switch on and be like his dad, but that will never be, 2 wins at HMS thats not good, give that ride to ryan, see what he can do...
Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:44 pm
michaeljohn wrote:i dont have anything against Jr, but i could never be a fan, his fans are wound up too tight and act like he does no wrong
Junior doesn't do anything right either!
Still a fan of his far as a person goes,but driver i gave up on.