SHR bets Borland can bring best out of Newman

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Zipadelli indicates the Borland-Newman arrangement isn’t long term

cuz ryan isnt long term

cuz ryan isnt long term

Buuuuuuut, as soon as Ryan and Matt can pull off 3-4 wins, sponsors will come a callin'. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST. I have ALL the confidence in the world in these 2. Call me crazy, I'm used to it. There's just a certain vibe in the air....WE'LL see...BOOKMARK this page...You'll thank me later

i bet ya a dollar MW.

haven't read a single thing yet that doesn't point to this being Ryan's last year there at SHR. If they want to roll with Danica, then so be it, her sponsors may give her another year at best in 2014 but I can't see anything past it. Kind of hoping for something to open up at MWR now too but Ryan's gonna have to be on it this year. Doubtful for anything to happen with RCR, soon it will be team Dillon + Menard, Richard isn't in it for serious anymore.

Things are changing but still think its gonna be tough for these young newcomers to do anything against this established group of 30-somethings that include Ryan, Logano's gonna be terrible at Penske and maybe they'll be looking again after next year, Stenhouse will struggle this year but I think he has promise, Danica will be downright awful. Maybe some new players come into Cup eventually like Turner, they may lean towards their drivers like Piquet, Larson, etc. but those guys are far from being able to compete in Cup (much less Nationwide). Perhaps someone like them could end up seating Ryan in a Cup car.

We'll just have to see but like I said these young guys that sponsors and owners want to be all over are way off from being legitimate, completely different landscape than 10 years ago. A smart owner out there will find a serious bargain in Ryan that can produce.

i dont know what to make of the whole ryan deal, i certainly am not trying to be negative, but watching racing for he last 100 years, it just appears that ryan is the odd man out, racing today isnt about skill, its about which driver can bring a sponsor to a team, just like 8ball said, i dont see danica lasting but a year or two, godaddy is going to see that nascar racing is a tad more expensive then indy and unless she proves herself worthy, i dont see them sticking around, but she can push merch...
penske admitted if they could have found sponsorship he would have wanted ryan back, i dunno what to think, its going to be like last year, but this yr he has a CC that has a concept of what to do

I think it would be awesome for Ryan to go to MWR, but I am the over 90% sure thing that Vickers lands that ride after Martin leaves next year.
If Ryan does go on a tear & scores 3 or 4 wins & gets some sponsors. I still hope he goes to whatever ride he thinks is best for him to win a championship. If that is with SHR so be it, but if there is a better ride, SHR has already basically said their loyalty is to sponsors (business) not Ryan. Ryan should look at it similarly as of now. What is what is best for whats left of Ryans career. (his business)
Dont want Ryan to go to RCR. All those rides are just being groomed for the grand kids & the guy handcuffed to a sponsor in Menard. RCR is headed for about a 10 yr lull in my opinion. If they go back to a 4th ride, I figure they will take Kurt away from FRR.

i bet ya a dollar MW.

Like the judge told Al in CADDYSHACK........Yer... Yer.... Yer ON!!!!

ya we know the judge was a big tipper, 25 cents right? haha

I read that article. Like I have said a million times. It's all speculation but it's something to talk about I guess. One thing is for sure. This could more than likely be his last years at SHR? I can't say it's been a good run because it hasn't (so far) in my opinion! The more burning question is,"Where does Ryan go from here?" What organization would be an improvement? He doesn't have a wealthy sponsor in love with him so far.........Alltel was his most dedicated..hum?

If Newman seriously only has $950 grand in the bank. He will need to work many more years to fatten his savings account in support of a family of 4!

I doubt Ryan would end up on another mediocre race organization and run around in circles mid pack or worse again. Been there and done all of that................. Going back to Penske is an interesting thought as a last resort only though.

I read that article. Like I have said a million times. It's all speculation but it's something to talk about I guess. One thing is for sure. This could more than likely be his last years at SHR? I can't say it's been a good run because it hasn't (so far) in my opinion! The more burning question is,"Where does Ryan go from here?" What organization would be an improvement? He doesn't have a wealthy sponsor in love with him so far.........Alltel was his most dedicated..hum?

If Newman seriously only has $950 grand in the bank. He will need to work many more years to fatten his savings account in support of a family of 4!

I doubt Ryan would end up on another mediocre race organization and run around in circles mid pack or worse again. Been there and done all of that................. Going back to Penske is an interesting thought as a last resort only though.

only top teams you could have hopes & dreams about would be JGR going to a 4th team, but even that would never happen without full sponsorship. Then Ryan fans would worry about pecking order, but honestly on a JGR team they have so many quality people, all the teams to me are A teams. They are Deep.
Then the only other quality team he could really hope for would be MWR, but again doubt this happens since A. I believe Vickers will land Martin's ride & Mikey wouldnt go to a 4th car without full sponsorship either.
Then if Roush loses anymore other drivers which seems to always be in the rumormill, could be a possiblity, but also in the rumormill it seems at all times is Roush does have pecking orders as far as driver 1, 2 etc... but all the cars are quality rides. I mean David Ragan was fighting for a chase spot one year.

The one top team you know you will never see Ryan at is HMS. JJ doesnt care for Ryan, Ryan doesnt care for Gordon, & HMS is like the Yankees. Always a full roster, with a Waiting list to get in.

I just hope Ryan kicks butt this year, so he can get some doors open for next year. Now that gibson is gone, we Ryan fans have hope that this can happen now. Hope Borland whips the new Crew in line by the start of the season.

This thread hits the nail on the head as far as what is wrong with NASCAR. Talent is not driving the sport anymore, sponsor dollars are. Not saying it hasn't always been sponsor driven, but talent has taken a backseat, or maybe even a rumble-seat... For me, seeing sponsors like Menard's put all that money behind a "never will be" is very discouraging... Not too many drivers have just one sponsor anymore and I don't think it's just the economy that's to blame. The sport has become way too expensive and GoDaddy, for one, is going to feel that this year... Seems the merchandise the driver can sell gets you a sponsor over talent. The few elite drivers that have both talent and merchandise sales are all that's holding this sport together, at least to me.

Well Ryan's got a lot of his money tied up in that huge house, all the cars, his taxes, insurance, etc. can't be cheap, etc. Doesn't really bring much in with personal sponsorships and I don't think has ever really gotten paid a big time salary at either Penske or SHR.

His situation though would be unique - those guys like Sadler, Regan Smith, Hornish, etc. who've had to move back down to Nationwide after losing Cup rides have nowhere near the accomplishments (or apparent talent) that Ryan has had. Mid-group drivers like Burton, McMurray, Truex Jr., haven't been forced to go down to Nationwide either. If Ryan gets bumped out of a full-time Cup ride, it would be sort of unprecedented given his status in the sport. Why must it happen to him. Heck I'd be OK if he ended up at Ganassi. Just please not to BK or Geico or a team like that, but it very well could happen.

could you imagine Ryan & JPM in the same stable LOL.

This thread hits the nail on the head as far as what is wrong with NASCAR. Talent is not driving the sport anymore, sponsor dollars are. Not saying it hasn't always been sponsor driven, but talent has taken a backseat, or maybe even a rumble-seat... For me, seeing sponsors like Menard's put all that money behind a "never will be" is very discouraging... Not too many drivers have just one sponsor anymore and I don't think it's just the economy that's to blame. The sport has become way too expensive and GoDaddy, for one, is going to feel that this year... Seems the merchandise the driver can sell gets you a sponsor over talent. The few elite drivers that have both talent and merchandise sales are all that's holding this sport together, at least to me.

yes rochelle i am a very smart man, i have been speaking on this subject for 3 years, legend ahead of my time