WHAT THE #$%^!!!!!!!

OK I have changed my mind about the defence of Tony Gibson after his inability to set up the car at Dover a few weeks ago. He has been unable to set the car up like what four weeks in a row? Did he forget how to be a crew chief (Not that he ever had the whole thing down to begin w/)? Did the FAT #$%^ get so dam hungry he ate all his notebooks along w/ his copy of Crew Chiefing For Big Fat Dummies? I am so sick of seeing Ryan running mid pack week after week, I thought the move from Penske would be the end of his mid pack racing I guess I was wrong. What is going on w/ his crew they were doing ok the beginning of the season now all of a sudden he is losing close to a half a dozen spots on pit road at every friggin stop!!!! This crap can't continue or we are going to miss the chase yet once again this season. Oh and the 14 team has not been very good this year as well. I think it's time for Smoke to clean house. Time to get rid of their useless c.c's and Hendric motors.

cant blame it on the motors if the cars isnt set up right, ryan had these problems in year one, but they made the chase so it was, then he won last yr, now everything is imploding and nothing will get done about it,
it is getting old and boring seeing the same results every weekend and every year, at some point the question has to be asked, "what kind of influence does ryan have with the team?" you brought up for a second, the penske split, does ryan deserve some of the blame for things to carry over from penske to SHR? its not a dig at ryan, but im sure some will take it that way, but it is a legitimate question to be asked.

i cant comment on tony stuff cuz i always get personally attacked, but his deal isnt any better.

If any of you out there know Ryan's history. You know how bad his racing luck is/has been!

True he got caught up in another wreck none of his doing. But, once again we all witnessed Team #39's inability to balance Ryan's car. It's this consistent inconsistency from week to week that has Newman singing the same old song when interviewed.

His short interview after he was wrecked out was much more telling than usual. Newman along with us are sick and tired of these disastrous race finishes.

Newman's pit crew seems dysfunctional. Or, it could be that Newman's cars are so far "out of balance" the pit crew has to spend valuable time implementing huge chassis swings on Ryan's set ups while pitting?

The emerging top teams so far this year is clearly Roush,Childres and Gibbs and a sprinkling of Hendrick. I'm not sure that Hendrick engines are as strong as they use to be? Yes I know all about car balance but on the "straight a ways" I see Hendrick getting passed....not good!

I will always be a Ryan Newman fan folks but I can't come on here week after week and blow wind up your keester and say things are going to get better. Even if Newman made The Chase could you honestly see his team being competitive?

BOTTOM LINE:Gibson needs to pull his head out and Ryan needs to speak up like he's got a pair and demand a supporting race team that will augment his racing talent! I know, drastic moves like this just don't happen in Nascar!

Newman said,"I just want to have fun" when he signed up with S/H Racing.........girls just want to have fun Ryan, your a race car driver.....HELLO!

cant blame it on the motors if the cars isnt set up right, ryan had these problems in year one, but they made the chase so it was, then he won last yr, now everything is imploding and nothing will get done about it,
it is getting old and boring seeing the same results every weekend and every year, at some point the question has to be asked, "what kind of influence does ryan have with the team?" you brought up for a second, the penske split, does ryan deserve some of the blame for things to carry over from penske to SHR? its not a dig at ryan, but im sure some will take it that way, but it is a legitimate question to be asked.

i cant comment on tony stuff cuz i always get personally attacked, but his deal isnt any better.

Hey MJ! It's these repetitive race performances that has seen a big drop off in Newman's fan base over the years.

He's not much fun to watch in all honesty. And that same old speech,"We didn't get the finish we wanted today but my race team fought back Army strong!" I know, he has to feed us all bull crap rather than tell the truth. It's the nice Nascar PR stuff!

Ryan made it very clear that he was not happy at all with the car last night. Actually told the crew their performance was unacceptable & that they would be having a meeting after the race. After the wreck Ryan came over the radio saying he appreciated the crew busting a$$ to get the car back on the track, but he still expected to see them on Monday. Gibson replied Yes you we see us all tomorrow. Ryan seems to be such a nice guy, and the crew knows that. They don't expect to get yelled at by Ryan. Well, in my opinion, Ryan needs to start yelling and doing some a$$ chewing. Maybe even let them all know they are replaceable. Including & most especially Gibson. If my job performance was as bad as Gibson's I would seriously reconsider my job position.

ryan can be that nice guy but also demand the team put out like he does, im not a big fan of a driver verbally tearing a crew apart like certain drivers have been doin this year, i feel it only makes things worse,
SD your right, if this was anyone one of us and we performed like this at our job, we wouldnt be working there much longer, i think ryan is awesome, he has a lot of potential, but right now i believe its bein wasted.

Last year when Ryans dad was his spotter, Ryan was not a nice guy at all. He was way more verbal with Gibson too. I don't know what happened this year but both teams are in the bucket. Hopefully, Tony will man up at the meeting today and get some things fixed. He said that he likes to point out the positives at these Meetings, well... being Mr Nice Guy can't cut it anymore. They are 1 race away from both being out of the chase.
I don't have the answer, replace or demand??? Guess we'll see next weekend. I don't really want to hear Ryan dropping the F-Bomb like he did last season on his scanner, I just want them to figure it out. They have the Best hired to do that, make them perform and earn their money.

I am a die-hard Newman fan and I would never slam him, but the guy has got to stop being Mr. Nice Guy. He has got to let all these clownballs on his team know that they are replacable. Maybe then they would step up and do there friggin jobs!!! I know him and Tony Gibson are good friends and have a great deal in common. I know that they enjoy fishing together, but having a good fishing buddy aint gonna win NASCAR races!!!! I have said a million times that I will continue to support Ryan no matter how lousy he is and I will. However I believe all Ryan's issues can be cured w/ some personell changes. Maybe I'm wrong maybe M.J. was right, maybe it is Ryan's fault as well. Maybe he is just interested in collecting a paycheck every week, and don't really care about winning anymore. I'm pretty sure that is not at all the case.

I have followed Ryan for his entire stock car career (well since his first ARCA win at Pocono) and I know the quality of driver he is. The guy is as talented as anyone else in the field ,yet he runs mid pack week after week after week. I am so sick of watching my favorite driver being just one of those guys who are just there to fill the 43 car field, one of those guys who have no shot at winning or even getting a decent finish. I am sick and f'n tired of watching Ryan Newman (one of the most talented guys in the sport) becoming the next Robby Gordon!!!! That is what is going to happen if changes are not made. The sad thing is I know it is never gonna happen, so I guess me and all the other Newman fans will just have to hang on to the memory of the man who had once come to be known as the Rocket, and accept the fact that our Rocketman is gone and he is now a mid pack racer.

lets remember he did beat JJ out for ROTY, im not sure if they had the same amount of wins, so he obviously has talent to win and be a champion, i know it watching a lot of team sports, there are teams out there that are content where they are at, and that is the vibe i pick up on the 39 team, and the 14 team, both drivers are better than that, i may not know a lot about tony, but i know in the past his other race teams were winners, and they need to get that to SHR quick, whether it means changing engines and chassis, maybe try RCR, something has to give soon.

There are two things drivers can do when they run poor. 1. Keep quiet and wait for things to ge better (Brad Keselowski did that last year). 2.Speak up and demand chnage. Not saying Ryan should go all Kurt Busch but he and Tony must do something espically Tony since he is the owner. Look at Jamie Mac he is the nicest guy out there and after the he struggled during the all star race he started demanding changes in the way his car was setup and made it clear how unhappy he was and until he blew up was a contender to win again in he 600.

tony and ryan have to get good days soon I hope

cant blame it on the motors if the cars isnt set up right, ryan had these problems in year one, but they made the chase so it was, then he won last yr, now everything is imploding and nothing will get done about it,
it is getting old and boring seeing the same results every weekend and every year, at some point the question has to be asked, "what kind of influence does ryan have with the team?" you brought up for a second, the penske split, does ryan deserve some of the blame for things to carry over from penske to SHR? its not a dig at ryan, but im sure some will take it that way, but it is a legitimate question to be asked.

i cant comment on tony stuff cuz i always get personally attacked, but his deal isnt any better.

Hey MJ if I were to place blame on Ryan it would be over giving feedback. I listen to his radio every race, & his feedback is good. Just when he has to do the adjusting over the radio I know they will not be doing well. Usually starts off with TG doing what he thinks, then screwing up the car royally. Then Ryan getting frustrated & start telling them what he exactly wants. Which is usually when his car starts going in the right direction. Unfortunately most of us knows if the driver is playing CC the car will never be as good as it can be, & almost impossible to keep the car up with the track. Last weekend though Ryan complained more of lack of power, & how horrible the crew was on pitroad. I mean he was really ####. Bottom line the #39 team needs a CC that can make the adjustments with Ryans feedback, instead of waiting for Ryan to call for the adjustments.

If I were to point at something Ryan himself needs (or could) improve on. It would be coming to pitroad during green flag stops. I dont think you will ever see him get a speeding ticket entering pitroad. One place I think he needs to be a bit more aggressive. They lose tons of time on green flag stops.

Ryan made it very clear that he was not happy at all with the car last night. Actually told the crew their performance was unacceptable & that they would be having a meeting after the race. After the wreck Ryan came over the radio saying he appreciated the crew busting a$$ to get the car back on the track, but he still expected to see them on Monday. Gibson replied Yes you we see us all tomorrow. Ryan seems to be such a nice guy, and the crew knows that. They don't expect to get yelled at by Ryan. Well, in my opinion, Ryan needs to start yelling and doing some a$$ chewing. Maybe even let them all know they are replaceable. Including & most especially Gibson. If my job performance was as bad as Gibson's I would seriously reconsider my job position.

+1

Also might I add, if I have to hear Tony Gibson apologize at the end of a race for giving Ryan such a crappy cars again, I might end up with bald spots in my hair! I used to try to give TG the benefit of the doubt, but now I am starting to really hate that guy!

Hey MJ if I were to place blame on Ryan it would be over giving feedback. I listen to his radio every race, & his feedback is good. Just when he has to do the adjusting over the radio I know they will not be doing well. Usually starts off with TG doing what he thinks, then screwing up the car royally. Then Ryan getting frustrated & start telling them what he exactly wants. Which is usually when his car starts going in the right direction. Unfortunately most of us knows if the driver is playing CC the car will never be as good as it can be, & almost impossible to keep the car up with the track. Last weekend though Ryan complained more of lack of power, & how horrible the crew was on pitroad. I mean he was really ####. Bottom line the #39 team needs a CC that can make the adjustments with Ryans feedback, instead of waiting for Ryan to call for the adjustments.

If I were to point at something Ryan himself needs (or could) improve on. It would be coming to pitroad during green flag stops. I dont think you will ever see him get a speeding ticket entering pitroad. One place I think he needs to be a bit more aggressive. They lose tons of time on green flag stops.

Pretty good observation Schmoopy1000!

It's painfully obvious this duo is NOT working out. Tony Gibson is as "lost"on car adjustments as a new-born baby left in the woods. He needs to go...end of story!

His pits stops have been horrific. You have to be around high 12 second pits these days........not high 15's-18's.

You mentioned Ryan stating he was down on power. Doesn't that support my earlier theory about my observation of this? All you have to do is watch with your own eyes folks! I know, how can a Hendrick engine be down on power? Simple answer.....the engine tuner can do what ever he wants with an engine. He can set up the engine for maximum gas mileage or tweak the engine for maximum horse power that uses much more gas. I say, give Newman max horse power and let Newman and his team figure out the rest!

Whether or not HMS engines are lacking performance is really hard to say as handling or bumbling pit crews play a major part as well,let alone crew chiefs missing the set up and not being able to adjust during the race.What i would question is how come SHR ran so well the very begining of the season over HMS and now SHR just forgot what to do when they get to the track? Just a question or thought that has been eating at me since HMS is now running better than SHR had been earlier this season.Noticed this last year too,but hey Rick Hendrick is such an honest guy,"choke"! Why sell your best to the competition if they are going to beat you with it is the real question i guess?