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Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Mon May 02, 2011 10:17 pm

OK, Ok... Elvis IS dead & gone, so is Bin Laden, & yes the U.S.A. landed on the Moon. Al Quaeda is lookin to KILL us (U.S.A.) next....! Bewear!

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Mon May 02, 2011 11:43 pm

Smoke14TS wrote:
midwesternsmoke wrote:far as what I'm seeing....Bush didn't do SQUAT. This was NEW INTEL that surfaced in August 2010. Bush was LOOOOOOOONGGGG GONE. Only thing he did was congratulate Obama. Remember,he had 8 years and BLEW a perfect chance to get Bin Laden. He was too busy looking for those elusive Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.......JMO.

My opinion is that your opinion is idiotic and you haven't been paying attention. They said the information that led to all of this started in 2007. Plus this #### with Al Quaeda started in the 1990s with the bombing of the embassies in Africa. Who was President in the '90s? The Liberal Wet Dream, William Jefferson Clinton himself. Liberals forget that bubble-nosed idiot had plenty of opportunity to do something about Bin Laden himself and didn't.

WTF DUDE?? havin' a bad day? The information that led to the killing surfaced in August of 2010. And yes I know all the other stuff you so eloquently stated. If I haven't been paying as much attention as I can that's because I work 10 hours a day. That's MY choice so don't go blamin' it on the economy. As for IDIOTIC you know where you can shove that remark. I don't really give a flying f%ck who was president back in the '90's, all that matters now is that this is 2011 and Bin Laden is dead and OBAMA is Commander-n-Chief and HE had the chance to give the order to accomplish the mission AND HE DID. So,put that in your conservative peace pipe and choke on it.

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 12:33 am

i feel playing the race card is important, because trump brought it up recently by saying obama was not smart enough to go to college, so by saying that, trump has implied obama got all his breaks cuz he is black, but people forget he is white too...........

as for what happened this weekend, it wasnt a democratic issue, or a republican issue, it was an AMERICAN issue, end of story, all day on fox, they tried every angle to give bush credit for what happened, he had his chance in the tora bora mnts, but backed off, and when i made my comment about this admin not getting any credit, its not because UBL, its because crazy right wingers said Obama never had guts to do anything, well i think it takes guts to make a call, just like it took bush to say iraq needed to be invaded for wmd, but none were never found

i never care who our president is, i back them 100% even tho i never liked bush, i backed him. but nowadays it is ok to obama bash, this is why our country is going to crap, this no respect, people want respect when it comes to stuff they like, but sure as heck dont wanna give it when it dont fit the scheme, and WE all guilty of it at one time or another, including me

so lets give bush cred, he got us stuck in a 9 year war in iraq, he had my brother in law give up his career so he could be deployed to the middle east 5 different times and fight in this war, bravo bush, you ruined many of lives

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 2:53 am

Well..... that link to the photo of Bin Laden dead ... IS FALSE. It has been circulating the internet since 2009... and even a video from the person who created it, showing HOW it was created. The photo has apparently fooled even many journalists across the world. The facts are, according to the AP, as of a few hours ago -

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House says it has made no decision on whether to release photographic proof that Osama bin Laden is dead.

John Brennan, President Barack Obama's counterterrorism adviser, says the administration will do everything it can to make sure no one can deny U.S. claims that the al-Qaida leader was killed during a firefight with U.S. forces in Pakistan.

But Brennan says still to be determined is whether to release a photo of bin Laden's dead body. Brennan says one concern is whether doing so could potentially jeopardize similar operations and intelligence sources in the future."

If you're curious to see how the photo came about - refer to this link -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... photo-fake
- for photo's - warning, they''re graphic.

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 8:10 am

from what i see all ya'll better run ur virus scans.. cause all those photos are supposdly viruses..

give dubya credit?? credit for what?? he started it yes.. but obama had to give the order to carry out the mission. IF this mission would have failed then he would be blamed and everyone would be obama this bama that.. but it did not fail.. lets give credit where credit is due. OBL is dead..

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 9:01 am

UBL is in trouble, donald trump is asking to see his long form death certificate hahahahaha

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 11:16 am

The point is mute on when the intelligence was delivered, made up or what ever as long as Saudi family is short a couple of family members. The sad thing is he should have been tormented for a few days like he did thousands of people. Does that sound cruel? Of course it does and this dude deserves it. Do I care what I've I've just posted? NO . I still can't adjust to what happened 9-11-2001. I never will.

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 12:43 pm

right on ND!!!!!

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 4:12 pm

michaeljohn wrote:UBL is in trouble, donald trump is asking to see his long form death certificate hahahahaha

Ha ha ha ha MJ! OMG, sometimes your little one liners just about kill me with laughter....

That was hilarious!!!!! Keem 'em coming PLEASE! :-)

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 5:00 pm

Trump has disapointed me the past few years. I think he has gotten too big for hs britches and is a joke. I'd love to see his real financials and see what Mr. T is really worth. But on the other hand who really cares?

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 5:14 pm

Here's how they found him......

‎"Osama Bin Laden's demise finally comes after stupidly activating his iPhones FIND MY PHONE feature"

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 7:04 pm

smokieonefour wrote:
michaeljohn wrote:UBL is in trouble, donald trump is asking to see his long form death certificate hahahahaha

Ha ha ha ha MJ! OMG, sometimes your little one liners just about kill me with laughter....

That was hilarious!!!!! Keem 'em coming PLEASE! :-)

yeah im like that one episode of seinfeld where george will say one funny thing in the meeting, then get up and leave, and if a few weeks his boss thinks george is the most intelligent man in the office.

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 7:08 pm

im posting this for MW, he wanted the video of the speech from sunday nite, but i found the transcript. this is not posted to inflame anyone, just doin a friend a favor.........

Good evening. Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda, and a terrorist who’s responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.

It was nearly 10 years ago that a bright September day was darkened by the worst attack on the American people in our history. The images of 9/11 are seared into our national memory -- hijacked planes cutting through a cloudless September sky; the Twin Towers collapsing to the ground; black smoke billowing up from the Pentagon; the wreckage of Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where the actions of heroic citizens saved even more heartbreak and destruction.

And yet we know that the worst images are those that were unseen to the world. The empty seat at the dinner table. Children who were forced to grow up without their mother or their father. Parents who would never know the feeling of their child’s embrace. Nearly 3,000 citizens taken from us, leaving a gaping hole in our hearts.

On September 11, 2001, in our time of grief, the American people came together. We offered our neighbors a hand, and we offered the wounded our blood. We reaffirmed our ties to each other, and our love of community and country. On that day, no matter where we came from, what God we prayed to, or what race or ethnicity we were, we were united as one American family.

We were also united in our resolve to protect our nation and to bring those who committed this vicious attack to justice. We quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda -- an organization headed by Osama bin Laden, which had openly declared war on the United States and was committed to killing innocents in our country and around the globe. And so we went to war against al Qaeda to protect our citizens, our friends, and our allies.

Over the last 10 years, thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals, we’ve made great strides in that effort. We’ve disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense. In Afghanistan, we removed the Taliban government, which had given bin Laden and al Qaeda safe haven and support. And around the globe, we worked with our friends and allies to capture or kill scores of al Qaeda terrorists, including several who were a part of the 9/11 plot.
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Yet Osama bin Laden avoided capture and escaped across the Afghan border into Pakistan. Meanwhile, al Qaeda continued to operate from along that border and operate through its affiliates across the world.

And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.

Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.

For over two decades, bin Laden has been al Qaeda’s leader and symbol, and has continued to plot attacks against our country and our friends and allies. The death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date in our nation’s effort to defeat al Qaeda.

Yet his death does not mark the end of our effort. There’s no doubt that al Qaeda will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must –- and we will -- remain vigilant at home and abroad.

As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not –- and never will be -– at war with Islam. I’ve made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader; he was a mass murderer of Muslims. Indeed, al Qaeda has slaughtered scores of Muslims in many countries, including our own. So his demise should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and human dignity.

Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we’ve done. But it’s important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people.

Tonight, I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterparts. They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al Qaeda and its affiliates.

The American people did not choose this fight. It came to our shores, and started with the senseless slaughter of our citizens. After nearly 10 years of service, struggle, and sacrifice, we know well the costs of war. These efforts weigh on me every time I, as Commander-in-Chief, have to sign a letter to a family that has lost a loved one, or look into the eyes of a service member who’s been gravely wounded.

So Americans understand the costs of war. Yet as a country, we will never tolerate our security being threatened, nor stand idly by when our people have been killed. We will be relentless in defense of our citizens and our friends and allies. We will be true to the values that make us who we are. And on nights like this one, we can say to those families who have lost loved ones to al Qaeda’s terror: Justice has been done.

Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who’ve worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice.

We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day.

Finally, let me say to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 that we have never forgotten your loss, nor wavered in our commitment to see that we do whatever it takes to prevent another attack on our shores.

And tonight, let us think back to the sense of unity that prevailed on 9/11. I know that it has, at times, frayed. Yet today’s achievement is a testament to the greatness of our country and the determination of the American people.

The cause of securing our country is not complete. But tonight, we are once again reminded that America can do whatever we set our mind to. That is the story of our history, whether it’s the pursuit of prosperity for our people, or the struggle for equality for all our citizens; our commitment to stand up for our values abroad, and our sacrifices to make the world a safer place.

Let us remember that we can do these things not just because of wealth or power, but because of who we are: one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. May God bless you. And may God bless the United States of America.

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 7:23 pm

Thanks for posting that MJ. Interesting read. I liked how he made it a point to say we are not at war with Islam. I think people need to realize that. It's like saying people hate America because of Charles Manson. (Not that there aren't reasons for some foreign countries to not like us.)

But I do notice he took credit for it...."At my direction..." Yeah, well, it was the military who first brought him the Intel, etc. but it had to be him that gave the Okay.

I can't sing Obama's praises right now MJ as I had to select not to renew my medical insurance today. Rates went from 662 for coverage for myself and husband to 813 a month. That doesnt' even include dental and vision and the deductible 3 times that of the one I had last year. I can't afford 1000 a month insurance (yes through my employer). It sucks and I do blame the current administration for this health care fiasco as rates have soared in the last 2 years. But I digress and go off-track. I am just P'O'd today re. this and no one seems to blame Obama for the gas or healthcare costs but they sure blamed Bush. (And thought I consider myself a conservative feminist and always vote conservative, I did not like the younger Bush--- his dad was much more intelligent.)

I really don't give a darn where Obama was born but I was born in Honolulu a month before him so our birth certs should look very similar. I have to dig mine out.

Re: Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Killed By US in Pakistan

Tue May 03, 2011 7:35 pm

no president is perfect, but this man is bein beat up beyond belief, he came into a situtation that was already broke by our prior president, i dont feel he was taking credit for the operation, i think he was just explaining that he had to give the order to start the mission.
as of 2005, i had to use my life savings to have medical attention, and a 600 a month prescription bill, i could not get health care because it would cost me 1500-2000 dollars a month, due to my heart condition, so every time i went to the heart dr, it would be 800 dollars up front, i went through 250 thousand dollars in health care, because i was such a high risk, i dont think anyone has the perfect plan for health care, but it has to start somewhere and hopefully grow into something stronger, if sunda showed us anything, it showed us that we need to put pride and work together to make this country strong again, and be able to have money for health care, education, seniors, social security, we need to take care of our own before we can take care of others.
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